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Possession is Nine-Tenths of the Law Part 3 (Joint Safe Deposit Boxes)

December 13, 2016Jeffrey A. Cramer Estate Planning, General Law, Probate, Safe Deposit Boxes, Trusts Estate Planning, General Law, NIne Tenths of the Law, Probate, Safe Deposit Box, Trusts, Wills
Safety Deposit Box

A frequent question which arises in probate matters is who owns the contents of a safe deposit box. The fact that a safe deposit box is leased to a husband and wife creates no legal presumption that property contained in the box is owned jointly by the husband and wife. The same principle applies to any safe deposit box owned jointly with (or with access permitted to) several people. For example, in one case the mere presence of bearer bonds in a safe deposit box leased to a husband and wife did not automatically become the property of the surviving spouse, but rather were deemed to be assets of the estate of the deceased husband.
In a different case, bonds located in a safe deposit box leased to a husband and wife were held to be jointly owned, upon proof that the bonds were purchased with funds kept in a joint bank account, were kept in the joint safe deposit box, each spouse had signed the lease to safe deposit box, each had a key and each had complete access to the box.
When the safe deposit box is leased in two or more names, the right of the co-lessee to enter the box is not affected by the death or incapacity of a co-lessee unless the lease contract expressly provides to the contrary. Nor is a co-lessee required to inventory anything removed from the safe deposit box post-death. Because the mere presence of property in a safe deposit box is not conclusive proof of ownership, the personal representative literally may be in a race to the bank to inventory and secure contents before a co-lessee can access and remove property from the box. If the co-lessee gains access to the box before the personal representative, it may become impossible to prove either the contents in the box or the value of those contents. As you can see, personal representatives must be very careful in dealing with safe deposit boxes - - - and have a good pair of track shoes.

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Possession is Nine-Tenths of the Law – Part 2

November 28, 2016Jeffrey A. Cramer Estate Planning, Probate, Trusts, Wills Abandoned Property, Atocha, General Law, Lost Property, NIne Tenths of the Law, Treasure, Treasure Trove
Atocha

Our last blog talked about a case where possession of “lost “cash did not result in the “finder” of the cash ending up with it. In a famous “treasure trove” case involving Mel Fisher and the wreck of the Atocha, the opposite result was reached. The Spanish ship Atocha sunk in the sea off the Marquesas Keys, in 1622 while on route Spain. Throughout history it was thought that the Atocha contained gold and other valuables. The treasure hunter, Mel Fisher, eventually found the Atocha after years of searching in the 1970s and recovered millions of dollars’ worth of artifacts. The State of Florida, the United States Government and the Government of Spain eventually made claims to ownership of the lost treasure. The court awarded Fisher possession of the salvage, reasoning that the title to abandoned property vests in the person who reduces that property to his or her possession. The court reasoned that disposition of a wrecked vessel whose very location has been lost for centuries as though its owner was still in existence, stretches a fiction to absurd lengths.
So, what we learned from these cases is: if property has been lost for centuries, “finders, keepers”. However, if the rightful owner of the lost property (or the daughter of the owner) is still around to claim it after it is found, “losers weepers”.
We hope that you now more fully appreciate the nuances of those famous legal principles - “finders keepers, losers weepers” and “possession is 9/10 of the law.”

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Possession is Nine-Tenths of the Law

November 10, 2016Jeffrey A. Cramer Areas of Practice, Durable Power of Attorney, Estate Planning, General Law, Probate, Wills Abandoned Property, Lost Property, NIne Tenths of the Law
Possession is nine tenths...

You have heard the old adage “possession is 9/10 of the law.” Well, here is a case dealing with the other 1/10. The Arizona case of Grande v. Jennings involved a hoarder by the name of Robert Spann. When he passed away in 2001, his daughter, Karen Grande, became personal representative of his estate. She knew from experience that he had hidden gold, cash, and other valuables in unusual places in previous homes that he owned, so she started looking for valuables that her father may have left or hidden in this particular home. Over the course of seven (7) years, she found stocks and bonds, as well as hundreds of military-style green ammunition cans hidden throughout the house, some of which contained gold or cash. After seven (7) years of searching and making repairs to the home, it was sold, “as is” to Jennings in 2008.

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